they would have a press conference and the president would have a nap. it was a very different time. >> there's no question that the president is not somebody who has prioritized evenings with his family, instead of having a bourbon on the rocks. i think some of this is overblown. they stay in the photo room the entire night. >> powerful democratic senators who say this president does not pick up the phone and talk. >> he's not a schmoozer. >> let me. senator mccaskill, seriously, though, at least in the press appear to be being played by both sides, wouldn't you expect the president to walk over to him? the president didn't talk to anybody who didn't have their picture taken. he's in one place. i'm sure speaker boehner went through the photo line. that's not a good example. i'm not arguing the president shouldn't do more face-to-face. i agree. >> put the schmoozing thing aside how do we get from here to there? >> whenever you're in a negotiation the thought process is this. what is the alternative? is it worse? if they do not make this deal on tax rates